They have eliminated just about all things that have to do with Christianity from the public square, right?
With the removal of school prayer and Bible reading, this gave in the minds of the atheists a license to teach their atheistic propaganda, right?
You are very right!!! It is so very sad what the wicked are doing to our precious children. We know what the bible says about this:
"but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it is better for him that a heavy millstone be hung around his neck, and that he be drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:6
We see that this applies to those who believe in Jesus and we know that many who believe are in the public schools. But what about enforcing the lies to the ones who hadn’t already believed? That would be terrible also obviously. The minds of the small children are vulnerable to the teachings of the wicked. Right across the bay from me in San Francisco, they are teaching kindergarten children atheistic values such as homosexuality is normal and good, and Jesus is a fairy tale, etc. The teachers have to teach like Atheists or get fired. The children who get persecuted will rarely get their parents to get a lawyer. In those cases, the Liberty Counsel can come to the rescue. But, mostly, the kids will get wounded without any help. Their parents may be non-Christians or too busy as working single parents to help them in any courageous way, and courage is what it will take.
No unless atheists start preaching in school that god is not real and atheism is right then that becomes atheistic propaganda.
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No.
When we had the Bible and prayer in our schools we did not have any need for police in our schools, now nearly all high schools need police…………..
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off course it’s right.
Why do you want kids to prey in schools?
They can do it in church, home, on the way to school. What the big deal.
Fear that they might be able to think for themselves and question their religion?
Thinking for yourselves and reasoning based on evidence is what school is for.
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You can still do it, silly, it’s just not mandatory.
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What atheist propaganda? You mean science? Yeah, that’s just horrible. Imagine having children learning science in school.
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What propaganda? You mean science, history, grammar, literature, foreign language, art, and math? Because those are the only subjects taught at most public schools.
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Not only right, but necessary.
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does it matter?
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Wrong. They don’t teach religion and they do not teach atheism in school. And just in case you’re wondering. There is no law saying you cannot pray in school or read a bible.
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Yeah, I support that schools are places to teach FACT.
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WWHMJD? HE WOULD ROCK!!!
Thou shalt turn thy music UP!
Um… of course it was.
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I think it is wonderful that fellow Atheist stood up for what we believe. Why should our children have to listen to christian nonsense? And there needs to be a separation of church and state and taking prayer out does just the trick.
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Atheist
Ever heard of separation of state and church? Article Six of the United States Constitution provides that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
it does seem to have given the atheists license to teach their propaganda, however yes, the gov’t was right not to allow the teachers to lead the students in prayer.
as for Bible reading, the Bible is the basic literature of an entire culture on which most western laws are based and as such should be read for the historic value… however, do you really want the gov’t teaching your kids religion? me either.
if you start to study it, the Baptists were the number 1 proponent of limiting religion in gov’t during the writing of the constitution as the gov’ts were limiting who could preach, what was preached et al. this was really a correction to that and as it should be, Christianity has always been at it’s best and purest form when slightly persecuted, not endorsed by the state.
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Yes good thing they got teaching beliefs out of school as now only you know things that are known or accepted are taught.
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No. All the Supreme Court did was eliminate school sponsored prayer in any form. There should be no required religious instruction, weather Christian, Muslim, Athiest, Shinto, or any of the billions of relgion and religion-based beleif systems. That is all the Supreme Court did.
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wrong.
try reading your constitution
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i dont know why they cant atleast teach both sides of the story such as when they teach the theory of evolution they should teach creation also soooooooooooooooo nope
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You can pray in public schools and you can read the Bible in public schools. These things have not been removed, but can’t be forced upon students by school officials.
This decision was not about Christianity vs. atheism. This is about any religious view being forced on others, that’s against a Constitutional ideal that the government shall not infringe on an individual’s personal beliefs.
Make sense?
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Heaven forbid (pun intended), the children of our country should learn academics, rather than exhausted fairy tales.
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Well you see America was founded on FREEDOM including of religion without persecution. Why the hell should my (hypothetical) children be forced to learn something I don’t think they should learn?
Don’t like it get the hell out of the country and go form your own with a centralized religion. Until then shut up.
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You can still pray in school. Although you’re actually supposed to do it in private, and quietly, like Jesus says to in Matthew 6:6. (You DID read that far, yes? If not, maybe you should. The first part of that chapter is REALLY important.)
You can read your Bible, too, during free time like Study Hall.
Any teacher who tells you you can’t is being overzealous in his or her application of the law. You can sue.
What you CAN’T do is make the rest of the class pray or read with you. Which is right and good, assuming you don’t want Muslim teachers or students making you pray from their book when it’s their turn.
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You, good sir, are entirely wrong. In the United States you have a thing called freedom of religion. This gauruntees you the right to practice whichever religion you choose. For this reason, Bible reading and school prayer is not practical, because you would also have to do the islamic call to prayer, read the quran, and every other religion that is active in the school. By the time you are done, it is time to go home.
Now, this atheist propaganda. I assume you are talking primarily about science. Science is not atheist propaganda. In science, everything that has credible evidence is taught, and children are taught what credible evidence is.
Of course, I can see why you would not want kids to learn how to think critically, but that’s just too bad for you buddy. The times of stoning the non-believer are over in the West.
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Prayer is not illegal in schools and neither is Bible reading. All the Supreme Court has said is that public school officials be neutral in their treatment of religion, showing neither favoritism toward nor hostility against religious expression such as prayer. Students are free to read the Bible and pray on their own time. It’s teacher-lead prayer that is a violation of the First Amendment.
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Why should we have the Bible or prayer in school? School is a place of learning, do your indoctrinating else where. Don’t pray in my schools and I won’t think in your churches.
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I don’t know what you’re trying to say. the supreme court cant remove those things. Maybe teachers can’t teach Christianity but my school has a Bible club and morning prayer meetings for those who are interested. Now, granted some teachers will persecute you for your beliefs but if you stay strong and follow the Lord He will give you strength.
God Bless
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If my pagan child has to be forced to sit through YOUR bible reading then YOUR Christian child has to sit through the reading of EVERY OTHER holy text as well. Its only fair right since not EVERY person in the USA is a CHRISTIAN or WANTS to be one.
When are you freaks going to get that?
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it was very right. because prayer is a waste of time and the bible is just a book. and a very flawed one at that.
they do teach bible reading in high school though, as a creation myth. which is what it is.
read genesis 1 then read every other myth in the world. they are all the same.
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surprise. im not an atheist.
No it was dead wrong. America’s judicial system was modeled after the God Yahweh’s judical laws that are part of His Mosaic Laws. How can a country turn it’s back on it’s God without expecting somekind of retaliation from its’s God? Are you crazy America?
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What’s atheist propaganda?
Anyway, yes, it was right to remove required school prayer and Bible reading, as it clearly showed preference for one religion over the others.
The public sector is not atheistic, but secular. I suppose you don’t understand that there is a difference, but there indeed is. Atheism is the belief that there is no greater power, no higher being, no afterlife, etc.
If the public sector were atheistic, school would be specifically teaching that there was no greater power and nothing beyond what we can see. I never in my life heard a teacher say anything even vaguely resembling that as part of a lesson.
Furthermore, Christianity isn’t the opposite of atheism. Any form of religion (especially the theistic ones) is the opposite of atheism. Atheists reject Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and primal religions. (Confucianism and Taoism are up for grabs… some consider them philosophies, some think of them as religions. They really are somewhere in between, and while they don’t exactly have deities, they do refer to spiritual ideas.)
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The Supreme Court was wrong and in violation of the Constitution.
Not the first time the Supreme Court got it wrong.
Like the Dred Scott Case.
Roe vs. Wade.
Etc.
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43+ years following a Jewish Carpenter & studying His Book!
You are very right!!! It is so very sad what the wicked are doing to our precious children. We know what the bible says about this:
"but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it is better for him that a heavy millstone be hung around his neck, and that he be drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:6
We see that this applies to those who believe in Jesus and we know that many who believe are in the public schools. But what about enforcing the lies to the ones who hadn’t already believed? That would be terrible also obviously. The minds of the small children are vulnerable to the teachings of the wicked. Right across the bay from me in San Francisco, they are teaching kindergarten children atheistic values such as homosexuality is normal and good, and Jesus is a fairy tale, etc. The teachers have to teach like Atheists or get fired. The children who get persecuted will rarely get their parents to get a lawyer. In those cases, the Liberty Counsel can come to the rescue. But, mostly, the kids will get wounded without any help. Their parents may be non-Christians or too busy as working single parents to help them in any courageous way, and courage is what it will take.
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